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In this episode of the Mind & Life Podcast, Wendy Hasenkamp, PhD, speaks with Harvard Osher Center Director Peter Wayne about his work on mind-body and movement-based interventions like tai chi. Their conversation covers many topics, including:

• how a background in ecology informs his research;
• embracing multiple causes of any outcome;
• how to do non-reductionist science;
• removing the hyphen from the mind-body system;
• harnessing the wisdom of the body through contemplative practice;
• the value of first-person narrative in research;
• safety and trauma in the body;
• the relationship between physical and emotional patterns;
• how the concept of the subtle body relates to Western views;
• the role of integrative medicine in dealing with climate change;
• and bringing together multiple perspectives to investigate the mind & healing.